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Collaborating web objects are not in any particular object store, they comprize a world wide object store that includes everything on the internet.  When supported they collaborate on garbage collection, cross referencing, copy control, security etc.  Intropspection and event handing make them [[FirstClassObjectsOnTheWeb]]  Their protocols include a soup of IDL definitions wrestlings for acceptance.  (Choosing the wrong ones means loss of efficiency via a gateway service and possible loss of needed functionality but no one has a crystal ball.)&lt;br /&gt;
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We will demonstrate [[CollaborativeWebObjects]] using a Wiki interface which provides a simple collaborative authoring environment.  We intend it to be user programmable and usable by any person or group as a [[KnowledgeManagement]] and [[GroupWare]] engine with a rich toolbox of contributed group support tools.  [[ObjectWiki]] rules will empower formatted [[WikiObjects]] to be agents with much of power of the Internet at their disposal and support the [[FirstClassObjectsOnTheWeb]] standards as they emerge.&lt;br /&gt;
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See http://eies.njit.edu/~jim/ais97.html and the presentation slides, http://eies.njit.edu/~jim/ais97 for some background on my thoughts on collaborative systems.&lt;br /&gt;
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See http://Xanthus.net/WebServices (HTML) http://www.xanthus.net/WebServices/WebObjectArchitecture.ppt (Powerpoint)&lt;br /&gt;
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See [[GroupWare]], [[ObjectWiki]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Let&amp;#039;s see if I&amp;#039;m understanding this.  {Jim please correct by amending the text to read what I should have said where I&amp;#039;m off target.}&lt;br /&gt;
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There are three strands to the [[WikiObjects]] initiative:&lt;br /&gt;
* The cool technology.  (many kinds) will be integrated together.&lt;br /&gt;
* The system objectives.  What will be achievable using it.&lt;br /&gt;
* The content.  Knowledge areas that will make the effort worthwhile, particularly in the first two years.&lt;br /&gt;
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Using someone or others principle, equal effort should be put into refining each area to maximise the product of these components.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for making me focus.  You can see I tend to move from one thing to another in a haphazard way.  It seemed to me a bit premature to &amp;quot;solidify&amp;quot;  [[CollaborativeWebObjects]] in the [[ObjectWiki]] context, but that is the heart of the matter and we will make [[WikiObjects]] [[CollaborativeWebObjects]] that will be useable outside the Wiki world as well(e.g. via SOAP).  I think [[CollaborativeWebObjects]] is the right focus.&lt;br /&gt;
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{chip in anywhere anyone }&lt;br /&gt;
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==Technology:&lt;br /&gt;
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====Core:&lt;br /&gt;
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* WWW HTTP Wiki&lt;br /&gt;
====Model Protocols&lt;br /&gt;
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* semi-structures messages&lt;br /&gt;
* IDL (WWW and CORBA/Smalltalk concepts and interfaces)&lt;br /&gt;
* Notation 3 rules&lt;br /&gt;
====Gateways&lt;br /&gt;
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* UNIX - (does anything)&lt;br /&gt;
* XML&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; SOAP, (WSDL, UDDI go in Content i think)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; RDF&lt;br /&gt;
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The project overview, from the [[CollaborativeWebObjects]] focus is currently:&lt;br /&gt;
# Wiki development of [[WikiObjects]] as first class objects in Wiki&lt;br /&gt;
## references and access&lt;br /&gt;
## operations and rules&lt;br /&gt;
## roles and permissions&lt;br /&gt;
# Create Interface classes to UNIX (via http for primative but general capabilities) and SOAP (at least)&lt;br /&gt;
# Development of [[WikiObjects]] as [[FirstClassObjectsOnTheWeb]] (access via SOAP/REST)&lt;br /&gt;
# Integrating Wikis as a transparent distributed object store and collaboration environment (must follow step three- at least the basics)&lt;br /&gt;
# Collaborative applications using [[FirstClassObjectsOnTheWeb]] written in [[ObjectWiki]] (can be started after step one)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Objectives:&lt;br /&gt;
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Some of this goes under Content if I understand it. The tool should allow these things, it is not these things initially.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Fosters collaborative work&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Supports multiple voting models allowing best conflict-avoidance strategies to be discovered rather than being hard-coded.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Supports integration between different sites.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Supports diverse format conversions.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Suports indexes (index pages) across sites.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Low admin overhead.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Degrades gracefully when some servers down / unreachable or slow.&lt;br /&gt;
* Allows for human diversity.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Supports personalised / client determined customisation.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Robust to saboteurs, including deliberate sabotage by individuals who &amp;#039;earn trust points&amp;#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Content:&lt;br /&gt;
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* Initially extension of topics raised here (plus also programming patterns).&lt;br /&gt;
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The &amp;#039;magnet content&amp;#039; is critical to bringing people with the right mindset to the initiative and also to act as an information base that can be viewed / juggled with using the system.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[ObjectWiki]], [[WikiObjectFormat]], [[WikiObjectUses]], [[ExtremeProgramming]]&lt;br /&gt;
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