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You are in &amp;quot;Collective Intelligence:1&amp;quot; ( http://WikiWorld.com Our Collective Intelligence manifest? )&lt;br /&gt;
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surkumdev1 joined the room&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: what you up to?&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: yell o&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: are you getting QET? quantum event time model?&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: huh?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: you agree there is no limit to how fast you can get their and newtonian rules apply to all of your travels no matter how fast you go?&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: no&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: QET predicts that and relativity emerges naturally more or less.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i believe that any digital physics puts a limitation on that&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: prove it wrong. one single example where it fails. it is absolutely true.&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: for the traveler alone&lt;br /&gt;
missavity joined the room&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: we must model the traveler&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: and the traveler is who exactly?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: hi miss, qurestions? problems? desires?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: questions?&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: who is the traveler?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: space traveler, to andromada and back&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: and why must we model him or her?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: takes him twenty years, but when he gets back 220 years have passed here.&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: senior moment? andromada is 100 light years away?&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: does that answer my question about why we must model him?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: we are modeling the universe&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: the actors in our model are travelers&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: oh, I get it, you aren&amp;#039;t going to answer that&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: i am trying&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: we are physicists, it is our nature to model the universe&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: ok, got you there&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: lol&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: who is the traveler&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: where is his record of travel&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: what did he learn?&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: where is he now?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: [[StarPilot]] and me. earth, any object. all objects.&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: you have been to Andromeda?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: newtonian rules apply for the traveller, but according to einstein, all other clocks are screwy.&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: not yet&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: what are the [[BigQuestions]] for you?&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: my big questions?&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: for my life?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: yes&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: yours, your family, nation, world?&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: right this minute, can I find my soulmate in a person of another race... if my race consciousness forms so much of my mission for this lifetime&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: forgive me, not soulmate, twin flame&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: i think as long as we preserve our disersity it is fine to enjoy it&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: diversity&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: that wasn&amp;#039;t the question I asked&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: but thanks&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: that is colective intelligence cool.&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: we are many steames on many frequencies, we can maintain conflicting streams only if we can prevent them from crossing.&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: in laymens terms Doc&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: you can be more than one thing, but its crazy&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: if you don&amp;#039;t mind being a little scitzo, go for it&lt;br /&gt;
ncslutpup joined the room&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: hi pup, questions?, problems? dreams?&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: LOL&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: free advice&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: hello miss&lt;br /&gt;
ncslutpup: not me, i am perfect&lt;br /&gt;
ncslutpup:&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: cool&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: hello dev1&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: hello nclutpup&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: so, jim, you know these people?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: no&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: I think that is slut pup&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: ok&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: come pup, ask a question&lt;br /&gt;
ncslutpup: hhmmm&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: hope you are being nice...&lt;br /&gt;
ncslutpup: i will&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: I asked about my twin flame being a person of another race&lt;br /&gt;
ncslutpup: what about the ability of the collective mind to anticipate events&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: when my race consciousness forms so much of my identity&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: good question&lt;br /&gt;
ncslutpup: why cant people collectively &amp;quot;see&amp;quot; even a little bit into the probable future&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: nostrodemous told me it can&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: lol&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: he told you?&lt;br /&gt;
ncslutpup: but it doesnnt seem to work very well&lt;br /&gt;
ncslutpup: why doesnt everyone get off the plane that is going to crash&lt;br /&gt;
ncslutpup: and other such examples&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: we can see the possible futures, which one you predict depends on you optimism, the collective only provides the alternaives usually&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: it must act through someone like budha, jesus, ghandi, gabran&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: why is that?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: it acts through all of us&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: you just said it must act through a transcended master&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: which one is it?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: the problem is largly that it operately on a lower frequency or longer time scale, it speakes sooo slowly to us that we are too impatient to listen.&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: it being?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: collective intelligence&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: we are cells that are us and in turn are cells of the collective&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: right, tiny drops in the infinite sea of God, collective intelligence, the universe, Love... whatever you choose to call it&lt;br /&gt;
ncslutpup left the room&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: no must, only if you are lazy you must, you must keep the disiplin&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: for me to keep it, requires 15 minutes 3 times a day meditation.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: missvity, what is twin flame?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: i hardly do it anymore.... I am 52&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: old hippy&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: the soul that was created with you at the begining of time&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: oh&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: how old are you?&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: it is the yin to your yang&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: i only know of the spirit born in my life.&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: a soulmate is someone that has come into your life to teach you a lesson&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: 52&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: your twin flame is your other half&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: oh&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: vibrating at the same frequency as you are&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: you seem too logical for a woman&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i m surprised&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: i just met someone close to that in a sence, dacid seigle shares many of my visions.&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: too logical?&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: yes, you can think&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: a defining character that most women do not have&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: is that a suggestion that I&amp;#039;m not a woman, or that women are illogical?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: fellowship is good, ecessary i think&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: necessary&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: personally, i believe that not woman can think logically&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: some do, an exceptional job at it&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: though&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: let me guess, you are single&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: yes&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: but i am not looking though&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: logical and intuitive...&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: masculine and feminine&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: yin and yang&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: oh&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: damn, I have it all&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: oh that&amp;#039;s good&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: Jim, have you had a NDE?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: men and woman tend to think differently, the way men think, deductive, kum call logical, he is forgeting that real problem are non linier and don&amp;#039;t succumb to deduction, and that inductive solutions are also logical by nature.&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: NDE?&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: Near Death Experience?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: you bet&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: me, not really, i think&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: could get heart down to 6 beats a munite&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: has it stopped?&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i hope. Well, there is a story, my dad used to tell me&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: once i stopped it.&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: have you seen the light?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: yes&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i haven;t seen the light&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: have you?&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: missavity?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: my meditations were 15 minutes to the second. took me two hours to get ailive.&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: nope, but I did have an experience where I felt myself as the entire universe&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: what do u mean&amp;gt;?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: normally 15 minutes&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: when i stopped my heart, it took two hours for me to revive myself.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1:http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;mdsuresh&amp;amp;nextdate&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;11%2f23%2f2002+2%3a1%3a9.0&amp;amp;direction=n&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: read down on Wednesay Nov 13, 2002&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: no idea how long the heart was stopped but i believe it was over a munute.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: oh, jim, sorry to hear that&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: but i felt fine, great actually after.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: oh&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: there is no such thing as death&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: so no need to feel sorry&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: pain and death are human illusions&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: but we aren&amp;#039;t really human, we are tiny drops in the infinite sea of collective intelligence&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: oh&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: ok, well I must take my leave&lt;br /&gt;
missavity: peace and many blessings&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: bye&lt;br /&gt;
missavity left the room&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: lol, you speack against that which logically can exist ignoring what logically might exist i think, kum. God is Creative forse in universe, of subset of the logical systems that comprise the univers which are creative.&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: can&amp;#039;t&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: oh&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: as far as i can say.. God &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; Creator&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i dunno&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i am goin to watch TV&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: organization emerges on every level, including the top, every top&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: fried your brain?&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: yes, I was learning GR today, having conversations about god, your theory, my own theory&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: and wad tryin to solve the problem of energy and a crumbling a piece of paper&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: so, my brain is fried&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: lol&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: watching weakest link on howard stern&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: QET theory, i have a model, a paridyme, it is not wrong, a theory of mine is [[BinaryHarmonicCosmology]].&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: QET is not a theory&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: later, sorry, i can be hard to shut up at times, lol.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: my brain is off now&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: QET is a description of observation.&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: you have other cool ideas in the chat, i just don&amp;#039;y think denying any reasonable definition of God is unreasonable.&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: it&amp;#039;s ok, it&amp;#039;s not bad, but undecidable ultimately.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: oh&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie joined the room&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: Anybody there?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: i&amp;#039;ll have to comment there I guess&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: ok&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: OK. you gys are just so silent.&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: hi venus, question, problems, dreams?&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: Nothing in particular. just a little bit lonely.&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: we just finished&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: Finished what?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: lol, a woman cab&amp;#039;t be lonely on the internet, can she?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: can&amp;#039;t&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: Well. I am. I just logged on.&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: A woman can be lonely in a lot of ways.&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: collective intelligence, information physics, God&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: Not just physically or mentally but intelectually too.&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: I am lonely intellectually.&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: i know, been married forever, twice&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: It is har to look for someone that one can talk to sensibly&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: we are all ultimately alone in our thoughts, but this is a place for you to be, this room i mean&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: cause we do have a lot of common thoughts&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: one some are unique.&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: only&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: weel, i am an information physicist, what is sencible to you and me are different in some ways, and the same in others.&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: I do hope so.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: hello venus&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: It would be boring if two people agree on everything.&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: Hi.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i once wrote a poem of a girl i named venus&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: when i was 16 i thought communication with other humans was impossible, like i was from mars or something.&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: It sometimes is like that. Communication sometimes sucks especially if the person you are talking to is on another wavelength&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: i know, lol&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: Venus is a largely well known and used name. Is she beautiful?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: the most beutiful&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: well, i never knew her name. she was beautiful&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: so, being a little bit of poet, i wrote a poem about venus&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: it&amp;#039;s just foolish romance&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: she is the first stop on the way to the son and a beatiful spirit.&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: sun&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: Okay. Since venus means the godess of beauty.&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: Romance is never foolish unless it gets out of hand&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: i believe in her.&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: well, i believe all gods are real spirits.&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: Aside from writting poems, do you like declaiming?&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: Are you a wide reader?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: dont know declaiming&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: I simply love books. Of all kinds&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: It is like in a theater.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i read mostly techincal stuff&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: i love books too, but dont read enough lately.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: and as far as reading novels, i like watching movies&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: What kind of books do you usually read?&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: instead of them&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: What kind of thechnical stuff do you read?&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: usually textbooks on physics&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: , mathematics, etc&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: you really are into Physics==&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: now im reading gabran and physics stuff&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i want to be a good physicist someday&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: You must be really good at science and all thise analytical stuff.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i hope&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: I had a hard time on those subjects when i was in college. I liked the literary stuff and the business stuff.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: but women do bring the poet and the artist in me&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: non fiction mostly but love gabran, Herman Hesse, heinlan, ....&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: but it&amp;#039;s just silly stuff&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: How old are you?&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: 20&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: not to me&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: what are your BIG questions, yourself, family, nation, world?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: 52&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: Those are not silly stuff. Any book is not silly stuff. You learn from them. Fiction or non-fiction.&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: About myself, I have no question. It is just about men in gemeral. Why do they always have roving eyes.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: no, i mean, my infatuations with women are sillt&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: silly*&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: because women are pretty and delicate&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: They only look delicate but they can be as tough as men.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: yes, but in a loving way&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: because it is in their advantage evolutionary advantage to make as many babies as they can&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1:&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: What does babies have to do with being tough?&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: women are expressive&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: That I can agree with.&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: rational people can appease those fanticies without actually acting on them, e.g. vicariously.&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: i love woman, all woman&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: there is nothing better than fallin in love with a women and cuddling her&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: but i never get any.....lol&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: I already have a little girl. it is not really an advantage but it does appease my motherly cravings.&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: had 5&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: I know I had one too early but It doesn&amp;#039;t change things. i love her.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: yeah&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: how old is your eldest?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: woman just HAVE to do that from time to time (babies)&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: I am only 22.&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: i love chirldren too fortunately&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i am a foolish romantic&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i am 20&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: I know. When the time is right (this time) and with the right guy. I still want to have two more.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i believe that i should say &amp;#039;i love you&amp;#039; to a girl, only if i want to marry her&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: 30Amy in aug.&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: Romantics aren&amp;#039;t foolish. They are those that should be followed by some.&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: That is true. love is an easy word to say but hard to stand up to.&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: pashion and reason are the sails and the rudder of the seafaring soul, without either he can but just drift aimlessly. -Gabran.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: my prof calls me so&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: usually, that&amp;#039;s how i do physics/math&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: how?&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: Some guys take love too lightly. But some gals too. I was once one of them. It was my fault even if at that time I was blaming my parents for breaking up.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: oh&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: Yeah. Oh. But past is past.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i am foolish romantic because i am &amp;quot;not practical&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: girls just wanna have fun&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i fancy over stuff&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: like physics&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: math&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: we all go through that, except kum, he is a strieght arrow.&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: You should try being practical but not on a lot of things. Being too practical isn&amp;#039;t fun.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: usually, my prof means the stuff i do&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: eventually, i do produce results&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: but i appoarch problems in a foolish romantic way&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: Such as?&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: Sometimes that is better than beating your brains out.&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: i don&amp;#039;t think you really what to know venus, or do you like physics?&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: I like it at some level but not too much. i like literary stuff more.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: you see, i told my prof, that when i become a professor, i will make exams that scale to each individaul student&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: and measure him based on progress&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: a lot of work... too much work.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: my prof thinks that is foolish romance&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: its really unpractical if you are prof because a prof should be doing research&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: i had one professor who actually read every line of everones program assignments, that was more work then any other would do. and it was a lot.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: oh&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: u know what i mean? venus?&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: I guess you both are deep into Physics. I am the odd one out.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: no,&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: it was cool that he saw every cool thing you did and appreciated it.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: let&amp;#039;s talk&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: what do u want to talk about?&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: jim, u talking to me?&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: Anything. Do you two know eachother?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: talking to us all&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: oh, about ur prof&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: ok&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: yes, venus,i know jim thru the internet&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: we have a common philosophy&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: Okay. Is he into Physics too?&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: yes&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: but this is the collective intelligence group&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: well, venus, my brain is closed for physics now&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: but i am a philosopher from time to time&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: How come jim isn&amp;#039;t shareing his thoughts?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: here we seek to accoplesh something together we could not do alone using all of our thoughts in any common area&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: we had been talking for a while now&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: i am jim&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: Ok. What appears on you screen is my real name so you won&amp;#039;t have any trouble.&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: i dont want to kill jimscarver (me) in the office cause there is stuff in the log I want to keep.&lt;br /&gt;
long name courtesy of my dad.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: u chinese?&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: Sometimes names are just a twisted sence of humor of our parents.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: oh&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: u asian?&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: Yes. I am a filipina.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: oh&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: the girl venus, i said was also asian&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: Where did you meet her?&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: college&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: nj&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: How did you guess that I was asian?&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i dunno, u reminded me of her&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: with ur name&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: Do you like animals?&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: cats&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: What else do you have?&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: but i am alergic to them&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: We have a lot in the Phil.&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: kum is asian, indian.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: but i used to have a lot of them&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: I am allergic to them too because I an Asthmatic but that doesn&amp;#039;t stop me and my dad.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i love kittens&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: they are so cute and pretty&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: sounds like american though, you have mics?&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: We have a lot of dogs, birds, reptiles, monkeys but no cats. They eat dad&amp;#039;s birds.&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: What is mics?&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: jim u like animals?&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: oh&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i am not into other animals except dogs&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: What kind of dog do you have?&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i dont. i pet my neighbors&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: we have 3 cats 7 birds no problem.&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: dog, hamsters&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: 5 rabbits&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: fish&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: right now, i have no animals&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: http://dootsmon.com&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: That is good enough. Wow. You have a lot too. My dad uis a breeder of birds so we literally have a lot.&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: only onee bird is free&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: cats dog and rabbits are free&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: We also have 2 siberian huskies, 1 dutchand and 1 shepherd.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i do not like to live with a lot of animals&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: too many responsibilities&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: wow, you are as bad as us&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i like to live a simple and responsibility free life&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: Well I love no correction, I adore animals.&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: But yes I only get to pet those animals when I am with my dad. It is hard to take care of them.&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: you gotta live life with gusto, or why bother?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: lol&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: That is true. i am learning to do that now.&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: i&amp;#039;ll drink to that==== brb&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: so, venus, u like a simple life?&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: I was swamped with responsibility at an early age because both my parents are always out of town so i had to rear my brother and my sister. I am 7 year older than they are.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: oh&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i hate responsibility&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: I like to live a simple life. I love the country. i would rather stay there than in the hustle and bustle of the city.&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: One does tend to hate responsibility until it virtually knocks on your door.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i guess&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i take my responsibilities too seriously&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: and so, i always try to avoid them&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: whenever possible&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: Our talk was definitely a breath of fresh air but i have to go now. I still have work tom.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: ok bye&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: Hope I could chat with you again tom night. Will look forward to it.&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: you are ul;timately responsible only for yourself, but sharing responsibility is what we do because we love life and abudance which we sustain together.&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie left the room&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: yeah&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: and bye&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: so, u have a lot of pets jim&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: nice to meet you, may not be here tomorrow but may be, come anytime&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie:&lt;br /&gt;
venusmellonie: Bye. Nite.&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: happy dreams&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc:&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: jim, should u be sleeping?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: yikes&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: wow, you are like a girl magnet&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: lost track of time&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: jim, shouldnt you be sleeping?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: charlotte takes care of them mostly&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: charlotte?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: my wife&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: ok&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: venus is nice&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: yes&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: every human being is worthwile and valuable and we can capitalize on human fulfillment.&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: we should.&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: every human being&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: goodnight kum&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: nite&lt;br /&gt;
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personal info (real names of others) comments removed. too bad the emotion symbols (smiles) were lost too.&lt;br /&gt;
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the log from friday, earlier today, and times i was not there are hopefully in the office and will get to yesterdays diary on monday.  wonder if anything cool happened when i wasn&amp;#039;t there....&lt;br /&gt;
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and another saga, boy it&amp;#039;s late....&lt;br /&gt;
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non1sum1qualis1eram:hi&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: hi jimmy scarver&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: hello&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: hi&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: u up?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: this is jimy, who goes there?&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: not much&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: im lethus&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: lethus?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: should i remember? senior moment?&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: yes the cosmic entity known only to mortals as lethus&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: im just lethus in a mortal form&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: ok&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: the grim reaper? i aint ready...&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: having WAY too much fun.&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: bad lag&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: and the power of Heavin is behind me&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: i see&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: if that works for you&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: that is wonderful&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: are you the reaper?&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: did i tell u i am a grim greaper&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: nah im lethus&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: people haved died&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: here&amp;#039;s something i will tell u&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: i am trying to recognise lethus, was a guess.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: this is just interpretation&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: u see, my driving instructor was old ritired man&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: he lived downstairs from my appartment&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: he taught me driving&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: i have sat amoung the imortals, perhaps we have met.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: and we became close and he died&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: his last conversation was with me.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: all my roomates have dropped out of college&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: including myself&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: i see&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: not only that, i knew this guy in new brunswick&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: he was old, he didnt have a family&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: he always wanted to play the guitar&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: what about his last conversation with you?&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: he never had any money to buy his own&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i gave him my guitar&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: and he disappeared later completely&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: this guy was living there for like years&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: later on, someond told me he had an heart attach&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i bring death&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1:&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: so you are the reaper, kum, may your shadow mever cross my door, lol.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: but death, where people die, happily knowing their spirits are put to rest&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: kim is not a believer in spirit.&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: kum&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i dont&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: this is just my interpretation&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: he thinks that if he can&amp;#039;t write the equation it doesn&amp;#039;y exist&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: huh?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: he doesn&amp;#039;t know that the equatins are beyond the comprehention of our small minds.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: not only that, this is something funny.&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: equations for meme based existance of spirit.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: u see, there was this indian actor in a dance video. he was old . So, i thought shouldnt he be dead? The next week, he actually died&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: but this is interpretation&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: luthis, questions? problems? dreams?&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: let me also tell you something, about death of institutions i have brought out, when i leave.&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: hrmm&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i went to 2 schools.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: u see, when i left my highschool in india in 11 grade, my principal died&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: you seem to be a destructive spirit kum, yet no reasonable being would choose death over life, hate over love, or destruction over Creation.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: well, he was old&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: but did he learn the guitar?&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: most of these people, who died, because of me are actually very nice people&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: well, the guy, who i gave the guitar, he knew how to play, but never had to money to play it&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: u see, back in my high school in india, my principal was held undisputed position was replaced when i left&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: when i came to the US, and left my WWPHS high school&amp;#039;s system, it went into turmoil because of teacher&amp;#039;s pay&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: ok. how about a little affimative action, pray for long life of every person and place you go.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: so, u see, i am death&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: jim, i am not kidding about any of these facts&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: it&amp;#039;s not that they die because of me&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: it&amp;#039;s just that usually, i am there when people die feeling happy&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: so, non1sum1qualis1er, why are u the grim reaper?&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: im not&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: im a part of lethus silly&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: you are the spirit that you alow to control you and those that control you vike viruses.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: what is lethus?&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: like a virus&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: please tell lethus&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: im just hear to experience the joys of marjuana inthats a thats a lie&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: bah&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: lag&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: im sorry&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: ok&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: i to am stoned&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: im here to experience the joys of marjuana through the enbodiment of human form&lt;br /&gt;
ALL IN (devinchillpill) joined the room&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: was&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: u see, not only do i bring death to people, i can navigate place without maps&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: by taking random paths&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i am not kidding&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: im not stoned im clean cuz im grounded&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: and it really sucks&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i do this experiment all the time&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i used to get lost and try to find my way back&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: i hate when im driving and get lost&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: and usually i do find my way back&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: it i am (was mabe) very good without a map.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i love it&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: i am never lost&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: it&amp;#039;s solving a puzzle&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: i live in chicago so you always eventually find your way back to a road that you know will lead you home&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: but its still anoying&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: oh&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: usually, this path finding thing helps in research&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: my abilty to have a funny convo is shot tonight&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: i am never physicially lost, emotionally and mentally i get lost regularly&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: how very tragic&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: hehe&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: oh&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: im gunna go to bed&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: cuz this is a realy boring evening&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i dunno. it&amp;#039;s like i have some sort of esp.&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: night night=/&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: sorry&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: nite&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: sorry&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: its possible to be closer to like a esp. stat of mind since concessness is useally expanded when you are high&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: to bad your short term memery and often the abilty to relate is shatterd&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: oh&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i am not usually not high&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: depends i guess on the drug dontcha think&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: night night&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: i see&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: because i do not do drugs&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: thats do bad&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram: you should try pot and stick to it most other drugs arnt that great fer ya anyhow&lt;br /&gt;
non1sum1qualis1eram left the room&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: no, i dont do drugs most of the time&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i do not like to have a cloudy mind&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i like to feel reality and know that i am feeling reality&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: oh&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: most every day i smoke a little i guess, entertainment for the tran ride etc., a substitute for the disipline&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: anyways, jim, i would like to someday test to see if i have esp&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: oh&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i think that would be cool.&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: all tests i have set up failed, seems untestable.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: well, there are some tests&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: almost seems like testing is taboo at times.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i would only believe that i have esp. if it can be scienfically proven&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: i could demonstrate it with one friend, before many people, but not in a controled experiment.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i need a controlled experiment&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: i was just like you untill i lived with witches&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i want to see if i really spell death&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: hello&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: and lost my ability to distiguash reality, retreated back to science and have finally reconsiled science and spirit.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: redskin, people i know, or have come to know intimately have died&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i am talkin about strangers&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: not family&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: all my roomates were dropouts&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: thats not going to win you any popularity contests kum.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: oh&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: lol&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: it&amp;#039;s usually like when i leave, things go in ruin&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: like both of my highschools i went to and the Rutgers EE program&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: do u know that ABET will not renew rutgers EE license if they do not change thier circulum&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: no kidding&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: give it no power&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: forget about it.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: this started happening right before i left&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: empower only creation.&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: jim, i dunno, something about me and death and justice&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: curriculum changes are often required&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: yes&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: about every few years to keep accredidation&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: at NJIT&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: good night&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: nite&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: i hope that there is no correlation between me and death&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: &amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
surkumdev1: nite&lt;br /&gt;
xanthusinc: indeed&lt;br /&gt;
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