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surkumdev1: hey jim<br />
surkumdev1: i am just down<br />
surkumdev1: what up?<br />
jimscarver: "don't let yesterday be tomorrows measure"<br />
surkumdev1: yeah<br />
jimscarver: yeah. bad switch on left click<br />
surkumdev1: everyday is down the slope for me<br />
jimscarver: my laptop is really screwey<br />
surkumdev1: oh<br />
surkumdev1: i just feel so incompetent<br />
jimscarver: start button and tray alternately fade like morse code or somthing<br />
surkumdev1: oh<br />
jimscarver: and text in the browser blanks sometimes as i scrol<br />
surkumdev1: oh<br />
surkumdev1: it happened a lot to me<br />
surkumdev1: and my computer was getting slower and slower<br />
surkumdev1: and it was crashing for unexpected reason<br />
surkumdev1: so i took out XP and installed 2000<br />
jimscarver: may be something with YIM?<br />
surkumdev1: may be<br />
surkumdev1: i just installed zone alert firewall<br />
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julienlorangeboulon: hi "colllective intelligence<br />
julienlorangeboulon: what is the subject her ?<br />
julienlorangeboulon: tr<br />
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Just me Bella: mornin gentlemen<br />
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jimscarver: hi<br />
jimscarver: been sorta busy...<br />
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sofiane19782000: hi<br />
jimscarver: hi, sorry things are busy for my and kum fell asleep<br />
jimscarver: he was up all night<br />
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jstagirl1302: help me<br />
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jstagirl1302 begs like a dog<br />
jstagirl1302: I need to be mean to somebody<br />
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jstagirl1302: that didn't sound right<br />
jstagirl1302: anyone there?<br />
jimscarver: just us chickens<br />
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Gwenny: hello?<br />
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surkumdev1: hey<br />
surkumdev1: u there?<br />
jimscarver: no<br />
jimscarver:<br />
surkumdev1: jim, do u know how to configure subnet masks?<br />
jimscarver: i suppose<br />
surkumdev1: figured it out myself<br />
surkumdev1: i was trying to setup a firewall<br />
surkumdev1: i am sure u know how to do configure subnet masks<br />
jimscarver: i used to<br />
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David: anything new?<br />
David: what is the relationship between the view presented in A New Kind of Science and determinism?<br />
David: Does Wolfram (?) support a determinist view? or is his view so new it doesn't fit into any of these catagories<br />
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jimscarver: wolfram supports determinism i guess<br />
jimscarver: determinism is more philisophical than science<br />
jimscarver: reversibility and randomness and the more relavant questions<br />
David: im back<br />
surkumdev1: even version of QM are deterministic<br />
David: Jim have you ever had a chance to look at MS [[SharePoint]]? I just saw an interesting presentation on it.<br />
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tyke: http://www.mechamix.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t342 check this out its a happin event ohio ppl be sure to cum its in cincy if you like techno it is the hott spott this is not a sex thing not a pay thing just a party it ant a virus eather its tonight and every thursday check out the site i just gave you<br />
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jimscarver: MS yuk<br />
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jimscarver: i was considering reselling it<br />
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David: jim you suffer from MSphobia<br />
David: brb<br />
David: im back<br />
surkumdev1: hey dave<br />
David: in the package the value added reseller gave us ther was a book with a catchy title 'Collective Knowledge'<br />
David: hey Koomar<br />
surkumdev1: yeah<br />
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surkumdev1: hey wael<br />
David: share point does seem to be true to the microsoft tradition of feature bloat to the point of insanity<br />
surkumdev1: oh<br />
surkumdev1: what is share point?<br />
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David: the package addresses some knowledge management objectives key to facilitating positive collaboration<br />
surkumdev1: oh<br />
David: [[SharePoint]] is a MS product aimed at document management<br />
David: it has controles for revisions, approvales, indexing and searching catagories<br />
David: and a really sexy front end interface based on the digital dashboard concept<br />
surkumdev1: my fire wall says someone has been tryin to open a TCP port on my computer<br />
David: hmm<br />
David: do you use zone alarm?<br />
surkumdev1: yes<br />
surkumdev1: the same ip address which it reported like 10 times already<br />
David: does it tell you the port?<br />
surkumdev1: 3714<br />
surkumdev1: TCP<br />
surkumdev1: its not my gateway<br />
surkumdev1: which has been scanning<br />
David: I wonder if its checking for some spyware on your pc<br />
surkumdev1: just random computers on my comcast network scanning for my computer<br />
surkumdev1: and opening ports on mine<br />
David: interesting looks like your not the only one<br />
surkumdev1: huh?<br />
David: http://www.finchhaven.com/pages/incidents/031002''udp''22_5632.html<br />
David: i didnt realy read it but it is interesting<br />
David: dont know if it is much help<br />
David: i wonder how much computers get scanned<br />
David: probly more than we want to know<br />
David: get a fire wall. . .<br />
surkumdev1: another scan<br />
surkumdev1: i have one now<br />
David: i was thinking of my home connection<br />
David: its a necesity<br />
David: specially with XP<br />
surkumdev1: my XP was defaced<br />
David: is there a good software package for Linux . . . like Zone alarm for Linux?<br />
surkumdev1: so installed Win2000 now<br />
David: ooooh ouch<br />
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surkumdev1: hey wild<br />
surkumdev1: how wild do u get?<br />
wild_disorder: helo<br />
wild_disorder: get what<br />
surkumdev1: how are you doing?<br />
wild_disorder: always good<br />
wild_disorder: thx<br />
surkumdev1: what up?<br />
wild_disorder: not much,taling to you<br />
wild_disorder: talking*<br />
wild_disorder: me chilin bro<br />
wild_disorder:<br />
surkumdev1: yeah ok<br />
wild_disorder: whadup with u<br />
surkumdev1: trying to figure out setting up my firewall<br />
jimscarver: http://www.finchhaven.com/pages/incidents/031002''udp''22_5632.html<br />
wild_disorder: software or hardware?<br />
wild_disorder: well good luck<br />
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David: hey jim where did that link come from <smile><br />
surkumdev1: i love zone alarm<br />
jimscarver: gui gui gui<br />
David: lol<br />
surkumdev1: product is easy to use<br />
David: ive had probs trying to proxy through it from another pc but then i didnt spend any time working with it<br />
David: i just turned it off<br />
jimscarver: as i said we considered becomming an asp cause a customer wanted sharepoint, and it was fine for them.... but they didn't respond to our bid...<br />
David: ah probably just as well for u eh?<br />
David: <smile><br />
jimscarver: you can get sharepoint accounts on the net for about $20/mo.<br />
David: really?<br />
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David: did we all get booted?<br />
jimscarver: may be up to $0/mo.<br />
jimscarver: $40/mo.<br />
David: hmm interesting<br />
David: ill have to look it up<br />
David: .<br />
jimscarver: http://www.findapps.com/func/sources?tree<code>findapps/collabor&id</code>2212110<br />
David: thanks<br />
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jimscarver: 11010101010101110111101101001010101010101010101010101<br />
ol''abe''is_sick: hmmm<br />
jimscarver: hi abe<br />
ol''abe''is_sick: hi jim<br />
ol''abe''is_sick: whats all the ones and zeros for?<br />
jimscarver: just sending some bits to the lost bit bucket, /dev/null<br />
ol''abe''is_sick: ok<br />
ol''abe''is_sick: sure<br />
ol''abe''is_sick: well im just droppin by<br />
ol''abe''is_sick: on my way out tho<br />
ol''abe''is_sick: adios jim talk with ya later<br />
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jimscarver: not much happening, were taling about MS sharepoint<br />
David: hey jim youll love this quote i found from a book called "Collective Knowledge"<br />
David: A new reality exists. Unlike all previous foundation for wealth land and natural resourcdes in the preindustrial age and capital and machinery in the industral age --- Knowlege can be given away and retained at the same time. We have shifted from a zero sum game, where one side always wins and the other side always loses, to a win win game, wehre all sides can potentially win throughtknowledge sharing.<br />
David: <end Quote><br />
jimscarver: great. you goinf to stick it in the wiki?<br />
David: yeah its been said but its nice to have another someone come to the same conclusion<br />
David: it is interesting to see what they term foundations for wealth<br />
David: and how it moves from land to capital to knowledge<br />
David: Knowledge applied technology in my view so wealth is finding ways to utilize abundant resources<br />
David: that is a worthy goal regardless of what our view of the long term results in this grand game of human history<br />
David: it seems so simple to me<br />
jimscarver: so much to do.... about time for train, should i stick this in the diary, not much here till the end....your stuff<br />
David: is it easy to grab the last part?<br />
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