CanerOnoglu
May I (Alle van Meeteren 07:02, 7 July 2006 (EDT)) give some hints? I understand CanerOnoglu is a person? You can sign your contributions by using ~~~~. If you are logged in, that will create your login-name and the actual date. Your login-name will be pointing to the user-namespace. There you can introduce yourselve and you will have a discussion-page, next to your introduction. I think it is better to use this facilities.
Do the rights of the individual need to always take priority over society's greater good? Look at Singapore. There the individual rights are subservient to society's greater needs. This creates almost a Disney World type feel to their country, but is that "bad". I am sure that this type society is better at certain things then our own and that it produces individuals with a different set of values, motivation and skills. The real unknown is what yields the best outcome for mankind. This changes as mankind's needs cycle from food and shelter to self-realized fulfillment back. This cycle of change is the only constant and it is up to us to assess what is needed and make the call. We will fail in trying to manage this relationship to a constant.
The statement "The needs of the few outway the needs of the many" is complete collectivist nonsense. It is because of the freedoms in our society that you have the ability to question the nature itself. Try publicly speaking out in a country where free speech is being suppressed. Why does Singapore function? It is a police state by its own right. The government forces its "citizens" into productivity, using their lives as the turning force. Yes, that is "bad" by all rights. Unless you believe that MightMakesRight.
You're trying to mask the true situation, I believe. "The real unknown"? "Self-realized fulfillment"? There are no unknowns in a police state besides those which the government sanctions and allows. How can you achieve self-realized fullfillment if you do not have the freedom to do so? A democratic society allows you that freedom. A capitalistic society: a TRUE capitalistic society, will drive innovation and invention through the nature of progress itself. How does restricting freedoms allow for an advanced society? --KenSchry
What is an advanced society? You must define what an advanced society is, to then be able to show how certain society models and communities can promote, hinder, or have no affect on the growth of the advanced society in question. ---StarPilot
- Maybe it is not the best phrase to use? For all intensive purposes, why don't we just define an "advanced society" as one in which the citizens have the freedom to contribute to, control, and/or criticize the government under which they function (or the freedom to LACK the aforementioned objects). I'm only conjecturing, please correct me where you see fit. --KenSchry