At the boundary of chaos and order.

Google:Chaordic, http://www.learnativity.com/chaordic.html, http://www.chaordic.org/

Visa International is dubbed a chaordic organization as it is owned by member banks without central control. PaulDube is initiating a collaboration of corporations that will include XanthusInc and our partners. What this means exactly still needs to be defined.

NetworkTheory makes is clear how organizations, a few simple connections can make a radical difference, for good or ill. Managing organizations as chaordic systems may be useful in maximizing OrganizationalProductivity.

In the InformationPhysics of systems in general, there is a chaordic region in the InformationCycle, as information increases, too much information, in the absents of an ideal information decoder, becomes noise, and order emerges from the complexity.

I'm confused by what exactly you mean. If a system or being is on the edge of chaos and order, then it is in perfect balance, no? But then by definition and pure theory, the chaos part at one point should overthrow the order side, in the non-linearly of systems will not allow for chaordic states.

Darn, now i don't even know what I'm saying==== --KenSchry

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Chaos is disorder, lacking meaningful information. Uniformity is order but also has little information. Order that emerges from chaos is not chaos, system of chaos and emergent order can be called chaortic.

I know what I am saying but don't know if it answers your question. Chaortic systems are not necessarily stable, they are non linear, and can fluctuate wildly, or decline or grow in ordering information. They are a evolving combinations of chaos and order feeding on each other. -- JimScarver

So basically it comes to if chaordic systems are the edge of chaos and order, do they stay there. The answer to that is no, due to the factor of chaos, that's what i think i was trying to say before...

"Managing organizations as chaordic systems may be useful in maximizing OrganizationalProductivity."

How in the heck would a chaortic system maximize OrganizationalProductivity? You would think a system of order/non-chaos would maximize it, leaving behind the fluctuations. But under chaos theory, the system would have to also be chaotic, resulting in many contradictions that give me a headache.... argh==== --KenSchry

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Easily understandable systems are linear. Real systems tend to be non linear and exhibit chaos. When we linearize our systems we are making an error. We cannot eliminate chaos, but we can work with it. Attempts to control all communications paths in organizations, for example, is unenforceable and tends to make the organizations less effective no matter how well we think we have defined communication paths that aught to be effective. NetworkTheory show how making or braking a small number of connections can radically change network behavior. Chaos must be managed, as it cannot be eliminated. -- JimScarver

You can take chaotic as two things, destructive and random. Destructive is chashes, loss of data, impedimenting the groups work. Random is chaos that may have an affect of helpfulness on a system. It may produce new ideas, cooperative working, whatever. I really assume that's the chaordic system you want, because if your talking about maximizing OrganizationalProductivity in a destuctive chaos system, that isn't much of a help... ;-) --KenSchry