DearDiary.2003-02-06
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surkumdev1 joined the room surkumdev1: hey jim surkumdev1: i am just down surkumdev1: what up? jimscarver: "don't let yesterday be tomorrows measure" surkumdev1: yeah jimscarver: yeah. bad switch on left click surkumdev1: everyday is down the slope for me jimscarver: my laptop is really screwey surkumdev1: oh surkumdev1: i just feel so incompetent jimscarver: start button and tray alternately fade like morse code or somthing surkumdev1: oh jimscarver: and text in the browser blanks sometimes as i scrol surkumdev1: oh surkumdev1: it happened a lot to me surkumdev1: and my computer was getting slower and slower surkumdev1: and it was crashing for unexpected reason surkumdev1: so i took out XP and installed 2000 jimscarver: may be something with YIM? surkumdev1: may be surkumdev1: i just installed zone alert firewall pkalinyak joined the room pkalinyak left the room julienlorangeboulon joined the room julienlorangeboulon: hi "colllective intelligence julienlorangeboulon: what is the subject her ? julienlorangeboulon: tr julienlorangeboulon left the room chickclick7 joined the room chickclick7 left the room iamyours_john joined the room iamyours_john left the room Just me Bella (bella1967001) joined the room Just me Bella: mornin gentlemen bella1967001 left the room jimscarver: hi jimscarver: been sorta busy... sofiane19782000 joined the room sofiane19782000: hi jimscarver: hi, sorry things are busy for my and kum fell asleep jimscarver: he was up all night sofiane19782000 left the room jstagirl1302 joined the room jstagirl1302: help me jstagirl1302 begs like a dog jstagirl1302: I need to be mean to somebody jstagirl1302: that didn't sound right jstagirl1302: anyone there? jimscarver: just us chickens jentlepeter003 joined the room jstagirl1302 left the room jentlepeter003 left the room lucia_moholy joined the room amanda''m''1009 joined the room amanda''m''1009 left the room lucia_moholy left the room Gwenny (poetsgloss) joined the room Gwenny: hello? poetsgloss left the room willow_tree35113 joined the room willow_tree35113 left the room surkumdev1: hey surkumdev1: u there? jimscarver: no jimscarver: surkumdev1: jim, do u know how to configure subnet masks? jimscarver: i suppose surkumdev1: figured it out myself surkumdev1: i was trying to setup a firewall surkumdev1: i am sure u know how to do configure subnet masks jimscarver: i used to David (dsiegel_spkn) joined the room David: anything new? David: what is the relationship between the view presented in A New Kind of Science and determinism? David: Does Wolfram (?) support a determinist view? or is his view so new it doesn't fit into any of these catagories dsiegel_spkn left the room David (dsiegel_spkn) joined the room jimscarver: wolfram supports determinism i guess jimscarver: determinism is more philisophical than science jimscarver: reversibility and randomness and the more relavant questions David: im back surkumdev1: even version of QM are deterministic David: Jim have you ever had a chance to look at MS [[SharePoint]]? I just saw an interesting presentation on it. tyke (faygolette_69) joined the room tyke: http://www.mechamix.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t342 check this out its a happin event ohio ppl be sure to cum its in cincy if you like techno it is the hott spott this is not a sex thing not a pay thing just a party it ant a virus eather its tonight and every thursday check out the site i just gave you faygolette_69 left the room jimscarver: MS yuk jimscarver: i was considering reselling it auditory_bliss joined the room auditory_bliss left the room David: jim you suffer from MSphobia David: brb David: im back surkumdev1: hey dave David: in the package the value added reseller gave us ther was a book with a catchy title 'Collective Knowledge' David: hey Koomar surkumdev1: yeah waelhasan2001 joined the room surkumdev1: hey wael David: share point does seem to be true to the microsoft tradition of feature bloat to the point of insanity surkumdev1: oh surkumdev1: what is share point? waelhasan2001 left the room David: the package addresses some knowledge management objectives key to facilitating positive collaboration surkumdev1: oh David: [[SharePoint]] is a MS product aimed at document management David: it has controles for revisions, approvales, indexing and searching catagories David: and a really sexy front end interface based on the digital dashboard concept surkumdev1: my fire wall says someone has been tryin to open a TCP port on my computer David: hmm David: do you use zone alarm? surkumdev1: yes surkumdev1: the same ip address which it reported like 10 times already David: does it tell you the port? surkumdev1: 3714 surkumdev1: TCP surkumdev1: its not my gateway surkumdev1: which has been scanning David: I wonder if its checking for some spyware on your pc surkumdev1: just random computers on my comcast network scanning for my computer surkumdev1: and opening ports on mine David: interesting looks like your not the only one surkumdev1: huh? David: http://www.finchhaven.com/pages/incidents/031002''udp''22_5632.html David: i didnt realy read it but it is interesting David: dont know if it is much help David: i wonder how much computers get scanned David: probly more than we want to know David: get a fire wall. . . surkumdev1: another scan surkumdev1: i have one now David: i was thinking of my home connection David: its a necesity David: specially with XP surkumdev1: my XP was defaced David: is there a good software package for Linux . . . like Zone alarm for Linux? surkumdev1: so installed Win2000 now David: ooooh ouch wild_disorder joined the room surkumdev1: hey wild surkumdev1: how wild do u get? wild_disorder: helo wild_disorder: get what surkumdev1: how are you doing? wild_disorder: always good wild_disorder: thx surkumdev1: what up? wild_disorder: not much,taling to you wild_disorder: talking* wild_disorder: me chilin bro wild_disorder: surkumdev1: yeah ok wild_disorder: whadup with u surkumdev1: trying to figure out setting up my firewall jimscarver: http://www.finchhaven.com/pages/incidents/031002''udp''22_5632.html wild_disorder: software or hardware? wild_disorder: well good luck wild_disorder left the room David: hey jim where did that link come from <smile> surkumdev1: i love zone alarm jimscarver: gui gui gui David: lol surkumdev1: product is easy to use David: ive had probs trying to proxy through it from another pc but then i didnt spend any time working with it David: i just turned it off jimscarver: as i said we considered becomming an asp cause a customer wanted sharepoint, and it was fine for them.... but they didn't respond to our bid... David: ah probably just as well for u eh? David: <smile> jimscarver: you can get sharepoint accounts on the net for about $20/mo. David: really? dsiegel_spkn left the room David (dsiegel_spkn) joined the room surkumdev1 left the room David: did we all get booted? jimscarver: may be up to $0/mo. jimscarver: $40/mo. David: hmm interesting David: ill have to look it up David: . jimscarver: http://www.findapps.com/func/sources?tree<code>findapps/collabor&id</code>2212110 David: thanks /dev/null (cronos_eclipse) joined the room ol''abe''is_sick joined the room jimscarver: 11010101010101110111101101001010101010101010101010101 ol''abe''is_sick: hmmm jimscarver: hi abe ol''abe''is_sick: hi jim ol''abe''is_sick: whats all the ones and zeros for? jimscarver: just sending some bits to the lost bit bucket, /dev/null ol''abe''is_sick: ok ol''abe''is_sick: sure ol''abe''is_sick: well im just droppin by ol''abe''is_sick: on my way out tho ol''abe''is_sick: adios jim talk with ya later ol''abe''is_sick left the room jimscarver: not much happening, were taling about MS sharepoint David: hey jim youll love this quote i found from a book called "Collective Knowledge" David: A new reality exists. Unlike all previous foundation for wealth land and natural resourcdes in the preindustrial age and capital and machinery in the industral age --- Knowlege can be given away and retained at the same time. We have shifted from a zero sum game, where one side always wins and the other side always loses, to a win win game, wehre all sides can potentially win throughtknowledge sharing. David: <end Quote> jimscarver: great. you goinf to stick it in the wiki? David: yeah its been said but its nice to have another someone come to the same conclusion David: it is interesting to see what they term foundations for wealth David: and how it moves from land to capital to knowledge David: Knowledge applied technology in my view so wealth is finding ways to utilize abundant resources David: that is a worthy goal regardless of what our view of the long term results in this grand game of human history David: it seems so simple to me jimscarver: so much to do.... about time for train, should i stick this in the diary, not much here till the end....your stuff David: is it easy to grab the last part?